Project: Honda Accord Radio Replacement
My brother-in-law is the antithesis of a carguy. For him a car is an appliance designed to get him from point A to point B, reliably and at a low cost. He therefore drives a Honda Accord LX, an ’04 model, now with 140,000 miles. He will run into the ground and then promptly replace it with a similar vehicle. He keeps up on maintenance religiously, but sometimes things just stop working. One day, the display on his radio went out. After that the radio would come on and off intermittently.
My initial suggestion to him was to replace that radio with an identical OEM factory unit off eBay because I hate aftermarket radios:
- they look like crap in the dash
- they are full of tiny buttons
- the display is horrid, designed by a seventeen-year-old
- the user interface sucks
- they’re all the same, no manufacturer offers a simple effin radio
In order to be fair to him, I also suggested an aftermarket option after explaining the above. He liked the idea of satellite radio and Bluetooth, so that’s what we went with. Yes, I could have tried to retrofit a radio from an ’05 Accord EX which had XM but would it work? Would I be successful? And how much would it cost? No one knew.
I placed a phone call to Cruthfield and ordered a cheap radio with the features I wanted, a satellite receiver, some satellite converter and a free installation kit. Cruthfield threw in a free CD changer (I don’t know why, it’s in the garage, still in box) and free shipping.
The mounting kit has become an issue right away. The free kit places the aftermarket radio very low in the center console and makes you give up a very handy storage bin. With this kit, the OEM radio remains in the dash, not connected to anything, sitting there useless. Reason for that is because the HVAC controls are integrated into the radio. I did not like that solution and got on the horn with Cruthfield again.
I ordered the $90 mounting kit which places the after-market radio where the OEM radio was and has HVAC controls which mimic the factory ones. This raised a flag with me because I was convinced that the cheap after-market HVAC controls won’t work right. And as we’ll find out soon I was right, but went along with the install anyway.
To remove the broken HVAC controls/radio unit I had to remove a good chunk of the lower console. At first it took a while, but after the fifth (yes, read on) time it proved to be a three minute job.
Wiring was rather painless but I had to call Crutchfield support (which is excellent by the way) about the illumination wire as the installation kit and the radio manual had different names for it (illumination and dimmer). Then I got to the blue wire which was “power antenna” wire. Pfft, I don’t need that! The antenna in the Accord is built into the rear window. Snip! I soldered up all the other wires and taped them into a semi-neat bundle.
The dash kit needed the OEM harness to be plugged into it and one wire connected to it. There was also a detailed procedure on how to “program” it; put the ignition on, press a button, turn off and pray. Wow, everything worked the first time, the radio and the climate controls! Holly crap! Ok, I install everything permanently, screw the whole console back together, and ta-da, I am D-O-N-E, done!
Yea, right.
After subsequent test, I found the climate control to be not working. On the horn with Crutchfield again; they couldn’t really help me because I followed instructions to the T and even repeated the whole procedure with them on the phone. Here is the problem; once “programmed” it would work fine but would go back to being finicky once you turned the car off and back on again. It had to be reprogrammed each time the car was started but reprogramming it meant disconnecting it from constant power and, you guessed it, taking apart the dash. In my brilliance I just pulled the fuse each time. However, pulling the fuse every time you started the car was clearly not the solution for daily driving.
Cruchfield called the yahoos that made the kit and called me back. The yahoos were actually on a three-way phone conference now. I repeated the exact programming steps I have now performed half a dozen times without success, but with one exception. The yahoos told me to press-and-hold the AC button before turning the ignition on, a step which was clearly absent from the manual. Whatta ya know, it worked!
Two weeks go by. My brother-in-law calls me and says that he is not getting any AM reception. Huh? WTF? First of all, how are you not getting any AM reception? And second, who the hell still listens to AM radio? Evidently Jim is one of the four people who still listen to AM radio and it is clearly not working.
Hmm… yea. I know why it wasn’t working but I needed confirmation, so I make another phone call to my good friends at Crutchfield. By now I knew them well enough to know their first names and schedules. Eric confirmed that the blue “power antenna” wire is in fact used to power up the AM antenna amplifier which is needed in lieu of having a mast.
Sonofa!!! Ripped the dash apart again. Removed the radio/HVAC clusterfuck. Took out the wiring harness and removed the tape. Looked at the harness where I cut of the wire. Crap, it is cut right at the connector. Calmly, I managed to extract the connector from the plug. That was good. I patiently opened the connector, removed whatever wire was there, soldered in a new wire and crimped it again.
I put everything back, again. I went through the HVAC set-up, again. I programmed the radio, again. Everything worked and by some miracle is still working, a year later. And it still looks like crap.
Many years ago when I left the mechanic shop I used to work at I promised myself that I will never work on cars again. This reaffirmed that idea. Cars suck, I hate them.




Cars don’t suck just because a part was difficult to install. In fact, that’s part of my draw to working on cars, the problem solving.
Loving the form factor. LMFAO
how many cuts and bruises do you have on your hands lol
Looks like crap. You can thank the idiots at Honda and Toyota and Nissan for the crappy integrated designs they have now. Whatever happened to a nice clean DIN standard opening?
JVC makes some great head units with HD radio built in. I’m using one in my daily and have installed a few for friends.
Spikeophant – I’ve spent two really nice Saturdays doing what should have been a quick 2-hour project. I think in my life I’ve spend too much time working on cars, I just want to drive now…
Tony, yes, it does look like crap, but it works…
“I hate aftermarket radios:
they look like crap in the dash
they are full of tiny buttons
the display is horrid, designed by a seventeen-year-old
the user interface sucks
they’re all the same, no manufacturer offers a simple effin radio”
I too hate aftermarket radios for all the reasons listed above. My current daily driver has one (previous owners replaces the OEM AM/FM/Cassette with an AM/FM/CD system. Was a bitch to work with when I got the car, and I didn’t even have to rewire anything.
Universal standards are always the way to go in my opinion.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with Tony here. The issue isn’t the aftermarket radios. The problem is the OEMs doing their own thing with the integrated designs. I remember a few years back I was looking at the Mazdas, and the whole thing with separate remote displays with the controls somewhere else and the HVAC integrated, etc. All of that just turned me off to it. I went with a VW with a standard Double-DIN opening. Replacing the head unit was CAKE – especially with Crutchfield’s amazing support. (which I didn’t have to call until I put the same head unit into a 20 year old BMW after having had it in two VWs and a Chevy).
I agree with the little buttons and the displays being gaudy – but I hate the limited functionality in the OEM radios more(particularly in models that came with the cars that I tend to gravitate towards (older). I also hate the lousy sound quality in the OEM systems. Even the Bose, Harmon Kardon, and Infinity systems that come on some higher trim levels are still crap.
I’ve got a nice JVC with HD Radio built in, aux in for my mp3 player, CD player, remote, etc. It cost next to nothing and sounds great. The wiring in the bimmer is a whole other issue. (the year after my car they actually got a modular connector. My year is 20 different wires all over the place = nightmare)
Kamil – Yeah, I can see that. I have a friend that used to work in a stereo shop I have do all my installs with me. Makes it nice and fast, since he’s used to doing that type of work. Also, my newest car is an ’86, so there really isn’t much to it. I haven’t yet installed one of the factory look alike stereo’s that have hard drives and usb built in, but that’s on my list for the ’73 Dart, and the ’66 Dart. Any experience with those? Pretty curious about sound quality, etc.
Spikeophant – The only experience I have with hard-drives and USB ports is on new cars where they are OEM equipment and they work fine.
In terms of sound it all depends of the audio file quality, overall system (speakers and their location) and, most importantly, your tastes… what sounds good to some people, sounds bad to others.
Well agreed with everyone somewhat. My newer rides I’ve just waited it out on eBay and gotten extremely lucky..05′ Jeep with (now) factory NAV and factory integrated iPod unit ( iPod stays hidden in the dash)…same on wifes 06′ Chrysler…daughter’s 06′ PT has what she needs ( don’t start with the tri-star/Mopar hate mail I’m happy with what I have)… and the cake one… my 94′ F150 with the sweet JVC unit scored off eBay (brand new ) with remote control and wired iPod interface that stays in the glovebox (the huge glovebox). So I’ve don’t it both ways nothing is perfect but I’d say the Jeep is closest since I’ve also added the steering wheel controls. Alas…. thanks for a great place for feeding my automotive fix.
Scott, in my Jeep Wrangler review I noted that I’d get the one with the cheapest radio and then upgrade to a better eBay model… it’s so easy to do on Chryslers as everything is integrated into one box.
Also, note that the radio/nav on the Ferrari California is straight out of a Jeep!!
I know this is an old post of yours but I’ve been scouring the net for any information.
I recently installed a kit (using the cubby mod) in my ’04 Accord. The Sony Head unit has a cable for Power Ant and Ant. The harness from the factory radio only outputs Power Ant.
I connected power ant -> Power Ant, but I’m not receiving any FM stations at all? Where is the connector to the rear-window antenna coming from?
Excuse me if this is a ridiculous question, but I’m in over my head.
Thanks,
Craig
Craig,
I am not sure if I understand, but did you connect the antenna cable?
Looks like this:
http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00lBWacIpzsVqu/Car-Antenna-Cable-CA-213-.jpg
It may still be connected to the original radio, which would explain why you’re not getting any FM reception.
-K